Apr 13, 2020
Ben
Miller, Chief Strategy Officer at the
Well Being
Trust joined me to discuss what’s broken, what works,
and what the future of mental health care in America can and should
look like.
Ben is a clinical psychologist and
spent a decade as a professor at the University of Colorado School
of Medicine where he did extensive work to understand how we can
better integrate Primary and Behavioral care resources and what an
idea mental health care system would look like in
America.
Ben is one of the most well-informed
people I’ve spoken to when it comes to:
- What is wrong with mental health
care in America?
- How did it get this
way?
- How do we fix it?
- Who is responsible?
I hope you find this conversation as
helpful and educational as I did.
Connect with Ben:
LinkedIn,
Twitter,
OpEd: Mental Illness is Epidemic Within the
Coronavirus Pandemic by Ben Miller
Well Being Trust:
Healing the Nation Report, Well Being Trust
Website, Twitter, Pain in The
Nation Report,
HERE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS
WE TALKED ABOUT:
- Ben is a clinical psychologist by
training and has spent a lot of time looking at ways we can better
integrate mental health care into traditional health
care. In this
conversation we dig into why there isn’t more integration between
Primary and Behavioral health care providers and what can be done
about it.
- The Well
Being Trust was launched by Providence St. Joseph Health
in 2016 as an independent 501(c)(3) public charity with an initial
seed endowment of $100 million plus an additional $30 million to be
invested in California from 2017 to 2019. Well Being Trust is now
investing in approaches that have the potential to model the way
forward. Well Being Trust was created to advance clinical,
community and cultural change…to transform the health of the
nation and improve well-being for
everyone.
- The Well Being Trust focuses on 5
key areas when trying to advance its mission including
clinical transformation, community transformation, policy
and advocacy, social engagement and learning and data
systems.
You can read more about each of these functional areas here.
- Ben explains that he and his team
are keenly focused on how they can do something positive for mental
health in the United States including how we talk about mental
health and lately, what we can do as a nation to lift up
communities that are going to suffer the most after the COVID-19
pandemic subsides.
- I asked Ben about the mental
health provisions in the current COVID-19 stimulus legislation and
he explained that about $450mm had been allocated
to SAMSHA from the stimulus
which really seems like an afterthought considering the
size of the overall stimulus spending.
- Over time the U.S.
government really hasn’t invested in mental health in the same way
we have other major health issues. The $450mm allocated to
mental health int eh current stimulus package seems like “budget
dust” relative to other spending and this has always been the way
the government treats mental health. Ben details his thoughts in
this recent OpEd.
- Why does it seem like the
government doesn’t get it when it comes to mental health?
It all started when JFK signed the Community
Mental Health Centers Act in 1963.
The problem with that legislation is that a mental health system
was created, separate, of the rest of health
care.
That separate system was never integrated, and the science and
leadership weren’t there to see to this separate system becoming
successful.
This policy sounded good in speeches, but there was no plan for
weaving mental health into broader health
reform.
This “separation” was codified in Medicare and Medicaid in 1965 and
we have been paying for it ever since.
This separation includes separate systems, separate benefits,
financing mechanisms, training modules, etc.
As a result, the government and many people still see mental health
as an afterthought since it is separate.
- On the whole, mental
health care is a mess of competing businesses and
interests. There are businesses that are
kept afloat by making sure things are kept the way they
are. When we start
talking about integrating services, we are talking about creating
financial loss for an established business even though it may be
what’s best for a community.
- Ben explains what
an integrated, thoughtful, good mental health care system or
solutions would look like based on a decade-plus of research and
efforts to understand this problem. He uses two words to describe
what the ideal system needs to look like:
Seamless – We
shouldn’t have to work as hard to make addiction and mental health
care available or accessible to those who need it. We shouldn’t have to make as
many referrals.
People should be able to get mental health help in the places where
they show up for primary care. We need an integrated care delivery
model.
Fragmentation of delivery is the problem.
Comprehensive –
Mental health care needs to be provided in a way that takes into
consideration social needs, displacement, immigration issues, and
other social determinants of health.
-
“Fee for service” versus “Global budget”
- Ben talked to me about how we pay for mental health
care.
He explained the difference between “fee for service” and “global
budget” payments and who global budgeting provides better care to
more people than fee for service.
-
Our language needs to change.
Ben talks about how our language needs to change because when
language changes, cultures change.
If we don’t start using different language, then we just perpetuate
things that are broken.
He tells me that
“Mental Health is NOT separate from your health. It is central to your
health.”
Connect with the Stigma
Podcast in the following ways: Website,
Twitter,
Facebook, LinkedIn, Email
Connect with host Stephen
Hays here: Stephen Hays Personal
Website, Twitter,
LinkedIn, What If Ventures (Mental Health Venture
Fund)